Wednesday, August 23, 2006

Off the Internet

Here's a little article I found about blogging from Beirut during Olmert's angry days.

18 comments:

Kodder said...

left you a comment :P

jooj said...

This is one of the best articles I have read since the war started.

Very well said Jamal

What is "Occupation" said...

Since Lebanon attacked the newly formed state of israel in 1948 a state of war has existed.

This war has gone on for 60 years. WIll Lebanon ever recognize Israel's right as a nation?

Since Israel DOES recognize Lebanon's right it's it's own state who really is the aggressor here? Lebanon has always been at formal war with Israel. Lebanon declared war on Israel, Not the other way around.

Kodder said...

check last post little one.

What is "Occupation" said...

ok, so you do not believe israel has a right to exist.

excellent, you won't be mad if my REACTION to that will be i support your complete destruction since you only advocate my complete destruction.

Lebanon refuses to allow israel the right to live. It attacked 1st. By the LAW of the UN, which stated Israel HAD a right to exist, Lebanon is in violation SINCE 1948 of a UN Security Council Resolution CREATING Israel, and Since that same body PASSED a resolution that israel did NOT occupy ANY lebanese lands, Hezbollah again is illegal in it's actions against Israel, a nation who your country (in violation of the UN) has a declared war against.

In the world one cannot advocate the destruction of another and not expect that person to not accept your intolerance.

What is "Occupation" said...

kodder, I am enjoying this, really...

So you believe israel should not be. If you had the military power to wipe it out you would want it destroyed correct?

If this is correct, and Israel has the power to wipe out lebanon completely and does not why not?

thanks for finally being honest, you hate israel and wish it destroyed. All israel wants is for you and your to stop murdering israelis...

hmmm...

Dania said...

he talks as if Israel has existed in this region for centuries.
DUDE...Israel came to exist on the lives of the Palestinians..if Israel's birth was not one of violence, all the Arabs would have welcomed them with open arms and hearts like they do to their own people. don't change history! we do not want you here becuase you do not want any of us living, well at least as human beings, you just want slaves. and don't say otherwise..we have seen what you've done to Palestinians and Lebanese so far. your minds are light years away from peaceful.

randah said...

occu-patient

don't talk as if lebanon and isreal's existence is of equal status. lebanon and the lebanese have been on their own land for ages. just like palestine and the palestinians.

no one wants to destroy the nation, just the government and the apartheid state of israel.

we just want y'all to go back to where you came from. you all came from somewhere else. you were NOT here before the state of israel was implanted in this region.

this by the way is where your the-villagers-should-leave-their-homes-before-they-get-bombed arguement comes from. you don't understand that this is their land and their ancestry ties them to it and they have no where else to go. unlike you, when you smiply leave israel because you have another place to go, which is where you came from in the first place. this is NOT your land and therefore you have NO RIGHT to it.

randah said...

oh and since the UN card is so convenient to you when you choose to play it, here are two UN resolutions, look them up.

UN Resolution 194
UN Resolution 242

Kodder said...

I think Dania and Randah said exactly what I wanted to say, nothing more to add :).
plus see past post.

randah said...

In case you missed my reply to a previous post, again, go and find real maps, documentation and references here:(instead of the crap you spit out and label as facts) there's a link in Hebrew

http://www.palestineremembered.com/ZionistFAQ.html

And enjoy a list of UN resolutions ignored by israel:

http://www.action-for-un-renewal.org.uk/pages/isreal_un_resolutions.htm

What is "Occupation" said...

randah, start with the 1st resolution that the UN passed

they created the state of israel, do you sign on to that one 1st?

if not all others are meaningless.

as for your other interesting comments:

randah said... "occu-patient"

i guess you cant call me by the name i used, i dont call you names.. tsk tsk... how pathetic.

randah said don't talk as if lebanon and isreal's existence is of equal status. lebanon and the lebanese have been on their own land for ages. just like palestine and the palestinians.

actually then you do misread history, what is lebanon if NOT greater syria? how long has lebanon been a state? since 1945.... created by the UN.

jews have been in jerusalem before islam, christianity and palestinians. debate that? the JEWISH homeland is even MENTIONED in the Koran, and there is NO word in the Torah called "palestine"...

the modern palestinians were not even IN these lands until 1860's, most of the land was barren and UN -occupied.. and yes JEWS did live in the lands until they were driven out by christians and moslems.

randal: no one wants to destroy the nation, just the government and the apartheid state of israel.

israel is 25% arab, palestinians from gaza & west bank are not CITIZENs in any way shape or form, so your apartheid comment is funny coming from the arab world that has emptied it's lands of jews.

as posted before:
i stated About this:
actually, yes I have, btw, there were MORE jews thrown out of arab countries than palestinians thrown out of any disputed lands

and YOU reply with such class: randal: I DARE YOU to back this up with facts and documentation! Come on, bring it bitch!!.................

so without lowering myself to the gutter and call you names I respond:

in 1948 Jewish Populations of Arab Countries: 1948 and 2001

Aden 8,000 0
Algeria 140,000 0
Egypt 75,000 100
Iraq 135,000 200
Lebanon 5,000 100
Libya 35,000 0
Morocco 250,000 5,230
Syria 15,000 100
Tunisia 105,000 1,000
Yemen 45,000 200
Total between 758,000 - 866,000 today = <6,500

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_exodus_from_Arab_lands

In 1945 there were between 758,000 and 866,000 Jews living in communities throughout the Arab world. Today, there are fewer than 7,000. In some Arab states, such as Libya (which was once around 3 % Jewish), the Jewish community no longer exists; in other Arab countries, only a few hundred Jews remain.

Jews in Arab lands have been reduced by more than 99% since 1948 while the Arab population of Israel has grown larger than its 1948 base...

This proves my point BY CUTTING AND PASTING facts and links to which you state:

randah said...
you are a moron who regurgitates statements out of context and is only capable of cutting and pasting.
you did not give any facts. there is no way to argue with an idiot, it's a waste of time.
go here: http://www.palestineremembered.com
look at maps, documents, and references to real books down to the page numbers.
your ignorance make me sick.

Alot of flying insults, but you ignore the facts i put in front of you. fact is 2 peoples live in the middle east, jews and arabs, arabs have 5,000,000 square miles of land, israel has 8,000 square miles of land

you continue: we just want y'all to go back to where you came from. you all came from somewhere else. you were NOT here before the state of israel was implanted in this region.

Jews have lived in jerusalem for 3000 years, jews lived in hebron, galilee, nazerith and a hundred other locations for thousands of years. to deny this is quite amazing, 900,000 jews were ethnically cleansed OUT OF THE ARAB world and thrown out of there homes there also.... but you cant see this... too bad.

randal: this by the way is where your the-villagers-should-leave-their-homes-before-they-get-bombed arguement comes from. you don't understand that this is their land and their ancestry ties them to it and they have no where else to go.

sure they do, they have 21 arab nations to live in, lebanon is greater syria, ask assad... but i guess you think that israel should not be a homeland for the Jews, tell me, Have you ever heard of the temple mount? It the jewish temple they speak of... Israel and jews CAME from this land, long before islam or christianity ever was born, if fact without Jews you have nothing... No Jesus, No Moses, No Prophets, No New Testiment, No Quran, nothing....

and yet you say jews do not have a right to a homeland... how tolerant, no problem in throwing out the jews from the arab world either?

randal: unlike you, when you smiply leave israel because you have another place to go, which is where you came from in the first place. this is NOT your land and therefore you have NO RIGHT to it.

Says Who? the UN created your silly little country in 1945. Whether i like it or not you exist, however unlike you i am not committed to your total destruction.



Keep dreaming the fantasy that israel is going anywhere, it aint.

So according to your logic the jews should go where? Medina? after all that was a jewish trading town before old mo executed the jews there?

What is "Occupation" said...

thanks to all for being honest...

I love the fact finally you start stating the truth

the truth? you hate israel and it's people, you wish it destroyed and will be active in it's destruction.

wonderful...

sad and pathetic, but wonderful... I hope that everyday as israel grows stronger and stronger, as they invent more medicines, computer programs, food products, advanced sciences you boycott all jewish/israeli inventions.. please dont use that jew infected computer or cell phone, and please dont read quotes form jesus, david or moses, all jews, all from the historic lands of the jews, israel.

in 50 yrs when there is no oil anymore the arab peoples will fade away as the dust in the wind, never creating anything except hatred and death...

enjoy your time, while it lasts, but now that you have been so honest, i need to be as well...

i dont hate arabs, i dont even hate arabs like you that seek my death.... I pity you.

instead of seeking growth, all you can do is support arab-nazism, death to israel...

enjoy your hell you have created

randah said...

hahahaha! unbelievable wlo!!

ok, i'm done. i am not wasting any more of my time with your stupidity. last advice, don't confuse jews and zionist israelis. no one denied that jews were living here all along, my grandfather's neighbours in Lebanon were jews. no one kicked them out, they chose to MOVE to israel. no one denies the right of jews to exist, again, just the killing machine that is israel.

I'm watching the funeral of the family killed in Marwahin. They didn't know that their ancestors didn't exist before the UN created their country in 1945.

Kodder said...

randah you know. I am gonna do like you do.
I think if I ignore the idiot enough he will go away.
he will post for a few more posts trying to provoke a reply.
lets just ignore him :P.
maybe jamal should pass by on all his posts and delete them one by one :P.
that would be so much fun :P, all his propaganda will be deleted :P

What is "Occupation" said...

just the killing machine that is israel.

yes the grand killing machine that cannot and has not killed but a tiny fraction as compared to how many the arab killing machines have killed.

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M. Simon said...

Arabs killed 3X as many Arabs in one month in Iraq vs israel in Lebanon.

The killing in Lebanon has mostly stopped. Iraq? Not so much. By the time the year is over 30X more Arabs will be killed in Iraq vs. Lebanese by Israel. You dislike Israelis, but hate Arabs? I'm down with that.

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A few more Hizballah victories like this one and Hizballah will be out of business. A few more Israeli defeats like the one they suffered in Lebanon and they will control all of Lebanon. Some victory. Some defeat.

The Bitter Taste of Victory

As reality starts to intrude into the Middle East Amir Taheri in Opinion Journal (Hat Tip: Ted Belman of Israpundit) notes that Israel and the west may have lost the propaganda war but Hizbollah has lost the Arabs. Lebanese Shiit Arabs.

Hizbollah Beats Israel Loses Arabs

I'm Jewish but let me say this, Hizballah has won another brilliant Arab victory in a long string of Arab victories. Arabs have a miracle strategy that never fails. No matter what happens they never lose. So here is to more Arab victories. '48, '53, '67, '73, '82, '06

An unbroken string. 2000? Occupation is out. Pounding for misbehavior is in.

Gaza is getting a good pounding these days. Maybe shooting rockets into Israel is not a good idea. Olmert wants to turn over the West Bank to the Palistinians so pounding for misbehavior can begin.

You don't like Israel? Fine. Do it from your side of the border. Lest the pounding begin. Capiche?

I mean you are all smart fellows. How hard can it be?

Every decade or two some really smart Arabs (this decade it is Persians) comes up with a new way to defeat Israel. Every decade or two they get their asses handed to them.

Remember the Intafada of 2000 which has turned in to the Stupidfada of 2006?

Wise up.

Business is more profitable than war.