Wednesday, July 19, 2006

Angry Olmert Day 8

Beirut is relatively calm again. That is not the case with the other areas where it has been the fiercest since the beginning of the Israeli offensive against Lebanon. Olmert's killing machine is still doing a heck of job rooting out civilians on the run. Wait though, according to some Israeli propagandists who have infested the comments section of this blog, "There are no innocent civilians. Even the Babies are "terrorist" sympathizers."

Let's use this twisted logic for a second. Hezbollah earned about 400,000 nationwide in the last elections. Add to that the number of kids who apparently are fair game for the Israeli military targeting and you'll get about a million people.
So according to Olmert and buddies these one million people are legitimate killing prospects.

By this same logic, there is a consensus in Israel supporting this killing campaign. Again using Israeli logic, civilians with sympathy towards assassins are fair game for targeting. I repeat by Israeli logic, 4 to 5 million Israelis might be civilians but they are killer sympathizers. Definitely not innocent and should not be spared in this confrontation.

What do you think? Sounds Fair?

So my Israeli friends,
As angry and frustrated Olmert continues to cowardly kill civilians, I have no doubt you will find more creative ways to spin it and legitimize these killings. Go ahead convince yourselves that crushing a fleeing family is necessary for a safer Israel but believe me you are only fooling yourselves.

40 comments:

angry itai said...

Hmmm...you never cease to amaze me.

It is you who kill those civilians.

Do you expect us not to strike back because your HA gang takes Lebanese as human shields? funny.

Have you heard the reports from south Lebanon of HA militants preventing civilians from leaving?
It's on forigen networks so you probably have.

Have you noticed that HA aims all the time at civilians on our side?
(Killing two arab babies today in Nazarath)

Have you noticed that the IAF warns before he strikes?

Have you noticed we are using our most precise and lightweight ammunition in order to minimize collateral damage?

Have you noticed that there are NO HA casualties on your disinformed reports?

Do you have any idea how many civilians were killed in NATO's (justified) air campaign in Serbia?
in US justified campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Have you counted how many Shi'ites and Sunics were slaughtered by each other in Iraq?

How many Iraqis were killed by Iranians in their war in the 80's?
(the answer is 1,000,000!!!)

So Israel is the last factor in the Arabs violence death toll.

What do you think makes us so special?

Well, at least you admit this IS a propaganda blog after all.

Ronen said...

Go ahead and convience yourself that its allright for a country to backup a terror organization acting from within it.

Go ahead and tell yourself that it is only natural that Israel will suffer from more than 1000 rockets bombs and missiles from your country within one week.

Anonymous said...

Well stop your hatred and hatred should stop.

War is dirty!

Now, I am not a jew, but there is something for sure, they don't put bombs in public places.

What is "Occupation" said...

Angry Omert Day 8

and hezbollah stated they welcome world war III...............

stated: Olmert's killing machine is still doing a heck of job rooting out civilians on the run. ....
So according to Olmert and buddies these one million people are legitimate killing prospects.

and yet 260 people INCLUDING hezbollah FIGHTERS is the TOTAL Kill COUNT... ever hear the story about the boy who cried wolf?

stated: Israeli logic, civilians with sympathy towards assassins are fair game for targeting. I repeat by Israeli logic, 4 to 5 million Israelis might be civilians but they are killer sympathizers. Definitely not innocent and should not be spared in this confrontation.


so you do want israel to really shoot lebanese civilains on purpose like hezbollah? are you on crack?
What do you think? Sounds Fair?

So my Lebanese friends,
As angry and frustrated Hezboolah continues to cowardly kill civilians, I have no doubt you will find more creative ways to spin it and legitimize these killings. Go ahead convince yourselves that crushing a fleeing family is necessary for a safer arab world but believe me you are only fooling yourselves.

What is "Occupation" said...

Angry Omert Day 8

and hezbollah stated they welcome world war III...............

stated: Olmert's killing machine is still doing a heck of job rooting out civilians on the run. ....
So according to Olmert and buddies these one million people are legitimate killing prospects.

and yet 260 people INCLUDING hezbollah FIGHTERS is the TOTAL Kill COUNT... ever hear the story about the boy who cried wolf?

stated: Israeli logic, civilians with sympathy towards assassins are fair game for targeting. I repeat by Israeli logic, 4 to 5 million Israelis might be civilians but they are killer sympathizers. Definitely not innocent and should not be spared in this confrontation.


so you do want israel to really shoot lebanese civilains on purpose like hezbollah? are you on crack?
What do you think? Sounds Fair?

So my Lebanese friends,
As angry and frustrated Hezboolah continues to cowardly kill civilians, I have no doubt you will find more creative ways to spin it and legitimize these killings. Go ahead convince yourselves that crushing a fleeing family is necessary for a safer arab world but believe me you are only fooling yourselves.

What is "Occupation" said...

Angry Omert Day 8

and hezbollah stated they welcome world war III...............

stated: Olmert's killing machine is still doing a heck of job rooting out civilians on the run. ....
So according to Olmert and buddies these one million people are legitimate killing prospects.

and yet 260 people INCLUDING hezbollah FIGHTERS is the TOTAL Kill COUNT... ever hear the story about the boy who cried wolf?

stated: Israeli logic, civilians with sympathy towards assassins are fair game for targeting. I repeat by Israeli logic, 4 to 5 million Israelis might be civilians but they are killer sympathizers. Definitely not innocent and should not be spared in this confrontation.


so you do want israel to really shoot lebanese civilains on purpose like hezbollah? are you on crack?
What do you think? Sounds Fair?

So my Lebanese friends,
As angry and frustrated Hezboolah continues to cowardly kill civilians, I have no doubt you will find more creative ways to spin it and legitimize these killings. Go ahead convince yourselves that crushing a fleeing family is necessary for a safer arab world but believe me you are only fooling yourselves.

What is "Occupation" said...

Angry Omert Day 8

and hezbollah stated they welcome world war III...............

stated: Olmert's killing machine is still doing a heck of job rooting out civilians on the run. ....
So according to Olmert and buddies these one million people are legitimate killing prospects.

and yet 260 people INCLUDING hezbollah FIGHTERS is the TOTAL Kill COUNT... ever hear the story about the boy who cried wolf?

stated: Israeli logic, civilians with sympathy towards assassins are fair game for targeting. I repeat by Israeli logic, 4 to 5 million Israelis might be civilians but they are killer sympathizers. Definitely not innocent and should not be spared in this confrontation.


so you do want israel to really shoot lebanese civilains on purpose like hezbollah? are you on crack?
What do you think? Sounds Fair?

So my Lebanese friends,
As angry and frustrated Hezboolah continues to cowardly kill civilians, I have no doubt you will find more creative ways to spin it and legitimize these killings. Go ahead convince yourselves that crushing a fleeing family is necessary for a safer arab world but believe me you are only fooling yourselves.

What is "Occupation" said...

Angry Omert Day 8

and hezbollah stated they welcome world war III...............

stated: Olmert's killing machine is still doing a heck of job rooting out civilians on the run. ....
So according to Olmert and buddies these one million people are legitimate killing prospects.

and yet 260 people INCLUDING hezbollah FIGHTERS is the TOTAL Kill COUNT... ever hear the story about the boy who cried wolf?

stated: Israeli logic, civilians with sympathy towards assassins are fair game for targeting. I repeat by Israeli logic, 4 to 5 million Israelis might be civilians but they are killer sympathizers. Definitely not innocent and should not be spared in this confrontation.


so you do want israel to really shoot lebanese civilains on purpose like hezbollah? are you on crack?
What do you think? Sounds Fair?

So my Lebanese friends,
As angry and frustrated Hezboolah continues to cowardly kill civilians, I have no doubt you will find more creative ways to spin it and legitimize these killings. Go ahead convince yourselves that crushing a fleeing family is necessary for a safer arab world but believe me you are only fooling yourselves.

Anonymous said...

Dear Jamal,

You are right. It is wrong to kill civilians. We are doing wrong things. Here, I have said it.

One hour ago two little kids (Christians from Nazareth) were killed by a Hezbollah missile. Can you please tell us what do you think about it?

Can you please admit that it was a mistake to let Hezbollah to have control over the south of Lebanon? Do you think Lebanese who are peace-lovers can do something about it? Do you think they want?

I hope that those sad days will end, and better days will come.

Lot, Tel-Aviv, Israel.

Anonymous said...

Yet, not a word of anger toward Hezbollah for dragging all Lebanese civilians into hell.

Anonymous said...

WHY ALL WARS IN THE WORLD INCLUDE MUSLIMES??? ADMIT IT-ALL YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS DEATH AND DESTRUCTION! ISRAEL LEFT YOUR COUNTRY IN ORDER TO ACHIVE PEACE,ALL THEY GOT IS A STRONGER,MORE BLOOD THRIST ENEMY!!!
EVERY LIFE THAT IS LOST IN THIS CONFLICT IS ON YOU,TERORISTS!
THESE "PRISONERS" YOU WANT TO RELEASE FROM ISRAELI JAIL ARE CONDEMEND MURDERS,WITH BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS,WHY SHOULD ISRAEL FREE THEM?
YOU ARE TERORISTS ONLY BECAUSE YOU ARE TRYING TO ACHIVE YOUR GOALS BY MEANS OF KILLING AND ABDUCTING PEPOLE WHO DID NOT HARM YOU.
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF FOR THIS.
WHY IF YOU GUYS WANT YOUR PRISONERS SO MUCH YOU DIDN'T TRY AND GET THEM BY SEATING DOWN WITH ISRAEL AND NEGOTIATE??? BECAUSE YOU ONLY KNOW THE WAY OF TERORISEM,THAT'S WHY.

Anonymous said...

Dear Lot in Tel Aviv, Israel,

You are right. The killing of civilians is wrong from both sides.

We don't condone Hezballah's actions. But in a time of national crisis, we are united. We have been dealing with the issue of Hizballah for only one year. Our nation has only been sovereign for one year. That is it.

Yes, Hizballah should not have taken the soldiers. But it's the citizens of Lebanon that are paying the price. It is not right.

The way to get Hizballah into line is through the political channels. We have been doing this.

Your country is going about the wrong strategy. And it will affect the entire region for years to come.

Anonymous said...

It's like your drunken buddy dragged you into a bar fight, and got you smeared all over the floor by the local brute. Who should you be more pissed off at?

Anonymous said...

Dear Lot in Tel Aviv, Israel,

You are right. The killing of civilians is wrong from both sides.

We don't condone Hezballah's actions. But in a time of national crisis, we are united. We have been dealing with the issue of Hizballah for only one year. Our nation has only been sovereign for one year. That is it.

Yes, Hizballah should not have taken the soldiers. But it's the citizens of Lebanon that are paying the price. It is not right.

The way to get Hizballah into line is through the political channels. We have been doing this.

Your country is going about the wrong strategy. And it will affect the entire region for years to come.

Anonymous said...

Does anyone know if Hez is really blocking the exodus of civilians from areas being attacked?

Anonymous said...

i have to say something. an out of the box comment. but it is true, oh yeah, it's damn true.

nasralla does not get enough sex. instead of fucking his doats and sheeps he should fuck his 499 lbs. women. if nasralla and the rest of the group fuck more women instead of all these animal farms, they would learn to chill

a unique perspective about the crises

and by the way - Israel is here to stay. you morons think that you can push us and push until we fall. WRONG! guess what - this is our country and you push too much, we will nail your ass.

as for the libnan people - i am sorry for your loss, but this is the responsibility of you guys hiding behind poor excuses and not taking any ownershup or accountability. you had a chance to deploy troops in southern libnan, you screwed up, now you get nailed.

maybe you will learn the lesson after this is over

libnanews said...

we can mobilise the lebanese diaspora to ask them to suie israel from outside : on http://www.reseau-damocles.org/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=218
it s war crimes

Kiru said...

WHY ALL WARS IN THE WORLD INCLUDE MUSLIMES??? ADMIT IT-ALL YOU'RE LOOKING FOR IS DEATH AND DESTRUCTION! ISRAEL LEFT YOUR COUNTRY IN ORDER TO ACHIVE PEACE,ALL THEY GOT IS A STRONGER,MORE BLOOD THRIST ENEMY!!!
EVERY LIFE THAT IS LOST IN THIS CONFLICT IS ON YOU,TERORISTS!
THESE "PRISONERS" YOU WANT TO RELEASE FROM ISRAELI JAIL ARE CONDEMEND MURDERS,WITH BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS,WHY SHOULD ISRAEL FREE THEM?
YOU ARE TERORISTS ONLY BECAUSE YOU ARE TRYING TO ACHIVE YOUR GOALS BY MEANS OF KILLING AND ABDUCTING PEPOLE WHO DID NOT HARM YOU.
YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELF FOR THIS.
WHY IF YOU GUYS WANT YOUR PRISONERS SO MUCH YOU DIDN'T TRY AND GET THEM BY SEATING DOWN WITH ISRAEL AND NEGOTIATE??? BECAUSE YOU ONLY KNOW THE WAY OF TERORISEM,THAT'S WHY.


First, before you condemn us Muslims, learn to spell...mmmkay?

Ronen said...

About Israels strategy -

Israel tried, since year 2k not to do anything in Lebanon, almost anything. Hizbullah kept attacking Israel time after time. therefor Israel realized that waiting for peace to come would not solve anything.

If Lebanon itself can't disarm Hizbullah we will. if you want to blame someone for what is going on in your country blame Hizbullah, blame Iran, blame Syria. And if you don't have enough power to fight them out of your country ask the help of the world - it will gladly help...

Stan said...

Ronen,
Its not true that Israelis tried not doing anything since 2000. Its always the same with you, the opressor always turns to the victim.
Israel has been invading our airspace since the liberation on an almost daily basis. They shoot at our sheperds and kill them. Your 400k mines kill or maim 20 civilians every year.
If this is not a breah of Lebanese sovereignty , then I wonder what would qualify for that in your dictionary.
But wait, I forgot. Your security is above all while the fears and concerns of others mean nothing to you.
You have created hizbullah and you give them the daily excuse to continue their struggle by invading our sovereignty.
The kidnapping of those 2 soldiers did not happen out of context. Nasrallah have been warning for years that unless you free Lebanese prioners, your soldiers are target for kidnaping. I certainly understand him since force is the only languange you seem to understand. Diplomacy have never worked with you.

the enemy said...

well, enemy, you just proved that there is no one to talk to on the arab side.
you began this conversation by stating that if somone will show you and israeli leader "someone who's not a racist oppressive pig, and I'll be first in line to shake his hand"

i read the responces, and i'm convinced you have been showed, more then one. still you will not shake his hand.

his dick, however, is going to take a while to get out of your ass.

enjoy !

dexafreak said...

i am israeli
i think hezbolla hates us just because we are jews
i think no metter waht we do or not - hezbolla will continue to hate us just because we are jews.
If we bomb Lebanon - Hezbolla will hate us because we are jews.
If we dont bomb lebanon - Hezbolla will hate us because we are jews.
Hezbolla is a terrorist organization. They started this fucking war by kidnapping two of our soldiers last week. Why did they do it? can you explain why?
I can tell you why: They hate us because we are jews.
Please explain me how come they made such a provocation against us and now you are crying about cevilian population which is being under bombing. What did they had in there mind when they started this shit - that we shall not response?
Wouldnt it be better if they havent started the provocation by kidnapping our 2 soldiers in the first place?
Do u want peace with us or do u want to fight us until u will throw us to the sea?
If you dont want war - then dont start a war, okey?
If you start war - dont cry about the results, okey?
We did not want this war. you forced us to fight. so be brave to face the results. Next time think twice before you make provocations against us.


yakir aviv, atlit,israel

Achillea said...

Definitely not innocent and should not be spared in this confrontation.

Since Hezballah killed two Israeli children just a few hours ago it's pretty clear they're not being spared. In fact, Hezballah is not only making no effort to do so, it's deliberately targetting them. The IAF, on the other hand, is making every effort to avoid civilian casualties -- believe me, even if every single one of those ~250 dead is a civilian, that's a ridiculously low number for a week-long bombing campaign. For all that those deaths are a tragedy and for all the damage to your economy and infrastructure, you're getting of pretty damn lightly for harboring terrorists.

peace_head said...

Hello Jamal,

I bet israel has bloodthirsty civilians and cool-headed civilians, just like every other nation on this planet.

also, every side legitimizes their actions. i'm pretty sure US has legitimized (at least back then) dropping an atom bomb on hiroshima, just like bin laden legitimized the september 11 attacks. its something humans do. i think i have even heard a fatwa claiming israeli civilians are a fair target since they're reservists or served in the IDF in one way or to other.

all these are nothing but mere excuses to kill more civilians, as far as i see it, but i'm wise beyond the years to know that's how war goes. it's us civilians who pay the dearest price.

i raise one hand in favor of rescuing civilian life.

(and on the same hand, i'd like to punch every civilian that actively blurs the line between combatant and civilian. the lives of billions of peace-lovers around the world are dependant on the clarity of this line. shame on you).

That Latino Guy said...

Just some facts that everyone seems to leave out here that might clear up some things:

Israel has a soverign border established for them, (yeah, Nazis tried to wipe out the Jewish race, so as a grand gesture, the UN agreed to carve out a country somewhere in the world for all Jews to go home to and feel safe, apparently even South America was a candidate for the homeland!) in 1948 by the United Nations, which intended to devide the land of Palestine into three areas, one for Israelis, one for Palestinians, and the third a neutral zone around Jerusulem that would be shared. Not that that wasn't a moranic idea, cause in order to make room for God knows how many Eurpean Jews that flocked to Israel, some hundreds of thousands of Palestians became refugees, you know, were kicked out... that's just not nice.) So a war began, duh!!! Palestinians protested, cause, like, their land was given away to people they don't know... Zionists were like God gave us this land (plus the British said it was cool!) and then fighting led to new borders, and then again more fighting later on to even newer borders, but, problem is, those new borders aren't recognized by Big Poppa and the rest of the world, and well, definately not by many refugees. In fact, they are called... drum-roll, please.... OCCUPIED TERRITORIES!!! Yeah, so they don't belong to Israel, they're occupied! Get it? Good.

So, now, some 60 years later, as a signatory to the UN, Israel is legally and morally responsible to play by the rules. Everywhere else in the middle east, when a country is a UN member and doesn't play by the rules they usually get a Resolution passed against them that results in sanctions or military action to force the country's leaders to play fair and by the book. I mean, look at Iraq, a country that had it's share of violations (unlike Iraq, though, Israel has the US to Veto most of the resolutions passed against it by the other members) and well, a lot of men, woman, and children, civilians died and continue to die cause they're getting their ass kicked by the occupation, apparently justified cause a little guy named Saddam Hussein and his administration stopped playing by the rules. Not that I don't blame him, he was after all an "Evil Dictator"... ooooooo!

Well, facts are facts... and the fact is, Israel has violated over 50+ UN sanctions, including invading and occupying land that wasn't given to them:

um... things that come to mind, well, oh yeah, the West Bank/Gaza Strip... no country in the UN recognizes the 1967 border that Israel redefined, or those settlements, but Israel keeps blowing it up, moving in, moving out, blowing it up again, moving in... I mean come on!!! Enough with the stealing shit...

And then there is of course, the territory of Shebba Farms/Golan Heights which even Israel claims belongs to Syria, but of course, Israel and the IDF occupy it, I mean if that's not playing by the rules, well... yeah, anyway.

I mean maybe in a Zionist world, God himself owes the occupied territories to them, but we're talking about the real world here, not the philosophical one, where any religious group can pick a book and a deity and say: "But He/She/It said in the Bible/Torah/Koran etc, that..." yeah, okay... and I gotta book that says God wants me to invade Mexico and then occupy it cause well, cause god said so, fuck the Mexicans and their resistance. It's mine!!!! See, what I mean. That's just not very nice nor is it fair. Didn't anyone learn anything about playing by the rules first, and then blaming everyone else?

So, everyone is like oh, Hezbollah, Hezbollah, Hezbollah... they hate Jews, they want to kill us, they started it, they don't want peace.

Well, wake the fuck up y'all!!! OF COURSE!!!

Not that I like Hezbollah's religous doctrinated shit, but I totally understand their anger. Why would anyone, and I mean anyone including Israelis feel anything less than hatred for a country that:

a) completely ignores the authority of the United Nations (that's like 160+ countries telling you like it is, that's called majority rules baby!)

b) invades, kills, bombs, and then occupies their neighbors and then blames them for the violence.

c) creates a state of apartheid that discriminates, criminalizes, imprisons, kidnaps, tortures, murders their cousins, who happen to be arabs...

It's sad, no just disappinting that Jews have been once again been caught in a war against their hearts and minds. No, it's not Hezbollah (a military and cultural movement that organized as a resistance to the Israeli INVASION and OCCUPATION of Lebenon in 1982), or the Palestinian people, or the Syrians, or the Lebanese, or even the Iranians that Jews in Israel should worry about... it's the Zionist state-of-mind that has infiltrated, corrupted, devided the beautiful, loving, hard-working, peaceful Jewish people against themselves. Once backed by the British in 1947, now backed in billions of dollars from the US, nuclear weapons, and a superior military, Zionist leaders, the Israeli Defense Forces and some desperate Jews have gifted their neighbors with a genocide that would even make that Fascist F#@k Hitler smile.

I hope everyone read and listened carefully, cause I won't go over this very special lesson again. Now, go do your homework people, or start calling me names to distract the readers from the facts...

someone said...

The war is on Lebanon and lebanese people,because the causalities is on their part,and not the militants.

Jews are destructing the lebanese goverment ,because it include the militant party,however it was not the american plan of democracy in Lebanon, i mean including the millitant called terrorist in the goverment .So the millitant are pleased to see the jews ,shuting down the lebanese government ,because it is an american plan to remove them from it. So you jews are not clever, there will not be a democracy in Lebanon as you define it, and the millitant party then have won his war,at least it will remain after all this destruction,and US lose the war (their plan).

Bombarding ,small villages will kill cevilians , you can´t avoid that, only troops can search these towns for millitants, why droping bombs on civilians homes only for suspecting there is rockets in their homes ?,this is stupid !

Jews ,cant do the same mistake as the US army did in Iraq,i mean occupying the land, because the US army couldnt stop the millitants in Iraq after 3 years, and there is no democracy there , instead civil war ,and poor economy,and a weak called iraki goverment.

Dont kill people because they agree with some ideas or agree with a lebanese party,they cant change their mind ,after you have killed their children and destructing their houses and economies,this is bad way of thinking.

Dont let Lebanon be an another Iraq,you will have two mistakes,without any solutions then.

The millitants kidnaped two soldiers,why? because a part of the state Lebanon is being occupied (chabaa valey) and for that they should fight to free this part of Lebanon ,then the millitants will let you in peace.Since the Jews wont give back this part of Lebanon ,there will be millitants in the south of Lebanon to free their land, this is legitime defense of the territory.

Let Lebanon defend himself first, if it can not get the land back by negotiation it will get it by other issues.

Now, who defended himself first?
I think Lebanon is defending his land from the occupies, and the millitants , are also lebaneses and belong to the lebanese government,and they are also part of lebanese forces.

Thats all!

jooj said...

Ooff wlo, I was scrolling and scrolling looking for something worth reading in this bullshit infested comment zone.

Finally a sensible comment from latino. Good things happen to those who scroll long enough!

Jamal, keep them flowing baby.

Ebal said...

The 2 Israeli Arab Children that were bombed and killed in Nazereth it is said that the Missle came from Nazereth Elit which is the Jewish upper Nazereth. The Arabs live in Lower Nazereth at the bottom..Of the Valley. It sounds like the Yehude is trying to Ignite strife among the Israeli Arabs as well they want them out of Israel as well. They will do anything to get rid of any Arab wether they are Christian, Muslim or Druze..This is not a religious war this is an Ethnic war..

levdavidovitch said...

If it looks like genocide, sounds like genocide and fits within the 1948 UN resolution on genocide, then it's genocide. And, before anyone goes ballistic look up the UN resolution and do a check list, it fits. The victims have become the perpertrators. We are witnessing genocide in Lebanon and the Zionists are using the shadow of the Shoah to intimidate people from stating the obvious.

Ronen said...

keep on crying about a genocide. you have lost 300 people in 8 days and this is genocide? you are clueless....

its amazing that none of you is thinking about when and why this war started. its not a thing from centuries ago it's from one week ago - try to remember. Hizbullah started a massive bombardment on northen Israel, killing some soldiers and kidnapped 2 of them - rings a bell???

Know these Hizbullah guys? they seat in your honored parliament

Erick said...

If Hezbollah has any evidence that many Israelis are hiding weapons in their basement, then sure, attack those targets...

However, there are plenty of known tanks to attack, and airplanes, airports etc. The things that existed in Lebanon before Israel destroyed them all, and that still exist in Israel because Hizb'allah is too busy (trying to) blowing up civilians.

lebanese_in_paris said...

PLEASE POST
===========

Journée Mondiale de Solidarité avec le Liban

Jeudi le 20/07/06 à 19:30
Lieu : Place de Cambronne
(Metro CAMBRONNE)


Chers compatriotes, chers amis du Liban,

Notre pays traverse en ces moments l’une des périodes les plus cruciales de son histoire.

Depuis le 12 juillet Le pays subit des bombardements de l’aviation israélienne, qui tuent des civils et qui détruisent les infrastructures du Liban.



Rassemblons-nous pour demander un cessez le feu immédiat


Rassemblons-nous pour demander à la communauté internationale d’aider le peuple libanais à recouvrer la paix et la souveraineté.


Rassemblons-nous pour réclamer haut et fort l’étendue de l’autorité de l’Etat sur tout le territoire libanais et pour dire que le Liban ne sera jamais plus utilisé par aucune faction quelle qu’elle soit.



Les forces du 14 mars vous invitent à participer massivement et activement à la Journée Mondiale de Solidarité avec le Liban



Soyons ensemble là pour dire notre indignation et notre volonté de vivre dans la paix et la dignité







Le Courant du Futur, Les Forces Libanaises, Mouvement de la Gauche Démocratique
Parti Kataëb, Parti Socialiste Progressiste, l'Union Libanaise Culturelle dans le Monde

kashka23 said...

It's very easy to say people hate us because we are Israeli or jewish. So easy, it's easier than taking a look at ourselves and the bad things we do to others and realising this is why people hate us. Sure, some religious fanatics may hate everyone who isn't like them, but from my experience of Muslims, I've learned that there is no religious reason why we shouldn't be able to live peacefully side by side. If we keep destroying each other's countries and killing each other's people then that is a different matter, however.

It's also very easy to blame "the arabs" for hating us but remember it's our jets that are destroying a whole country and accusing all of the Lebanese of being terrorists and killing them for it. Who is the racist now?

For those who don't understand the Israeli psyche, it's hard to understand how a nation that has suffered so much during the holocaust can turn around and treat other nations in almost the same way as Hitler treated us in WWII. All I have to say for ourselves is that the fear instilled in us by the holocaust is still very much alive in some people in our country, to the point where they can only see enemies before them all the time. They are detached from reality and unfortunately they are dragging a whole country into this war on the back of this fear. It's very "interesting" that the war in Lebanon (especially if it spreads to Syria) fits in very well with the American plan for the middle east. I wonder what lies will come out in the future like the lies that started the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

As an Israeli I am ashamed of what Israel is doing and there are many of us who are.

Please don't hate all of us because of what our government is doing to you. It's done against our will.


Peace

S

What is "Occupation" said...

That Latino Guy said... Israel has a soverign border established for them,

actually no, there is the green line (with lebanon) however other borders are not firmed up, there are cease fire lines from previous wars

That Latino Guy said... (yeah, Nazis tried to wipe out the Jewish race, so as a grand gesture, the UN agreed to carve out a country somewhere in the world for all Jews to go home to and feel safe

actually, in 1917 the british empire, having beaten the turks promised both the east and west banks (most of trans jordan) as a homepland in jewish palestine, to which the arabs famously slaughter the jews of hebron and started the modern progroms to drive any and all jews out, in 1948 jews had resettled long before ww2, the numbers of holocaust surivivors was less than 20%, a hugh portion of the israeli refugees came from the arab world (about 600,000) who were thrown out of their historic homes and businesses

That Latino Guy said... , apparently even South America was a candidate for the homeland!)

in the early 1900's even uganda was offered to the jews, so what?

That Latino Guy said... in 1948 by the United Nations, which intended to devide the land of Palestine into three areas, one for Israelis, one for Palestinians, and the third a neutral zone around Jerusulem that would be shared.

good

That Latino Guy said... Not that that wasn't a moranic idea, cause in order to make room for God knows how many Eurpean Jews that flocked to Israel, some hundreds of thousands of Palestians became refugees, you know, were kicked out... that's just not nice.

now this is where your facts get messy.

1. Most Jews of Europe were dead
2. The jews that did survive did not throw any palestinians out of any arab villages
3. and equal number of JEWS were thrown out of their homes in the arab world, it's called population exchange, the same thing happened / happens around the world, just look at all the refugees from germany that were resettled after ww2.

so your point that room had to be made for the jews, is simply misinformed or bullshit, take your pick

That Latino Guy said... a So a war began, duh!!! Palestinians protested, cause, like, their land was given away to people they don't know...

there were no palestinian in 1948, there were only "arabs", and theri land was not "given" away, MOST arabs that left did so because their leaders told them to leave, but 25% of israel today is moslem BECAUSE MANY DID NOT LEAVE... THE ISRAELI DID NOT PUSH THEM OUT and today they are citizens of israel, whereas there are NO JEWS LEFT IN THE ARAB WORLD, who is ethnically cleansing now latino guy?

That Latino Guy said... Zionists were like God gave us this land (plus the British said it was cool!)

actually, you are correct, if g-d did not give the land to the jews, the christianity and islam HAVE NO CLAIM EITHER!!!!!!!!! Please tell the fake people the arabs to go back to arabia since there is no GOD, torah is bullshit, and thus, the KORAN AND THE NEW TEST ARE CRAP!

No christians or moslems have claim to any lands in israel either....

That Latino Guy said... and then fighting led to new borders,

no, the 5 largest arab countries refused the UN partition and went to war and lost....

That Latino Guy said... and then again more fighting later on to even newer borders, but, problem is, those new borders aren't recognized by Big Poppa and the rest of the world

most of the world? so what? most of the world are dictators, this aint a beauty contest....

That Latino Guy said... , . In fact, they are called... drum-roll, please.... OCCUPIED TERRITORIES!!! Yeah, so they don't belong to Israel, they're occupied! Get it? Good.

actually again, your showing your lack of research, in the UN resolutions they are "disputed territories" not occupied... and by international law, SINCE THERE NEVER WAS A PALESTINE, they are disputed. you are sloppy with your research..tskl tsk

That Latino Guy said... So, now, some 60 years later, as a signatory to the UN, Israel is legally and morally responsible to play by the rules.

yes, it is interesting how you gloss over the 1st UN resolution that the arab world refuses to play by...

That Latino Guy said... Everywhere else in the middle east, when a country is a UN member and doesn't play by the rules they usually get a Resolution passed against them that results in sanctions or military action to force the country's leaders to play fair and by the book.

actually no, israel has had 524 NON BINDING resolutions against her in the last 6 yrs, the only resolutions that can be forced are security council ones.. again your not doing your homework...

That Latino Guy said... I mean, look at Iraq, a country that had it's share of violations

17 securtity resolutions

That Latino Guy said... (unlike Iraq, though, Israel has the US to Veto most of the resolutions passed against it by the other members)

and what about tibet? darfur? iran? china? sudan? cuba? north Korea? the so called palestinian people all of these murder tens of thousands MORE than israel and never get any mention in the UN

That Latino Guy said... and well, a lot of men, woman, and children, civilians died and continue to die cause they're getting their ass kicked by the occupation,

i guess you havent heard, the "occupation" ended with the start of oslo, 99 % of all palestinians do not live under israeli rule, and i guess you havent heard that israel WITHDREW from gaza and an area 2x the size in the west bank, again, your not doing your homework, however the arabs have hijacked (not planes this time) the term "occupation", it no longer means what it did after ww2, when we occupied japan, now it means (thanks to that goat fucker arafat) if one square inch of land is occupied by israelis then BY GOD"S DECREE it is a scared ISLAMIC TRUST and OCCUPATION CONTINUES.

That Latino Guy said... apparently justified cause a little guy named Saddam Hussein and his administration stopped playing by the rules. Not that I don't blame him, he was after all an "Evil Dictator"... ooooooo!

I agree, i loved saddam LIKE YOU DO, after all he was personally the largest murderer of arabs in the history of the world, all most 2,000,000 people directly killed because of him and how many has israel killed in war against the palestinians? 5,000?

2,000,000 arabs murdered vrs 5,000 killed...

That Latino Guy said... Well, facts are facts... and the fact is, Israel has violated over 50+ UN sanctions

actually again, not correct... there are 2 resolutions that are the basis of everything 181 & 242 all else are non-binding bullshit that the arab world has shoved thru...

That Latino Guy said... , including invading and occupying land that wasn't given to them:

again, if the islamic world can claim them as their, why should the jewish state not be able to claim them, if we wre using a biblical standard... if the JEWS have no claim, the islam and christianity certainly doesnt either
.

That Latino Guy said... no country in the UN recognizes the 1967 border that Israel redefined, or those settlements, but Israel keeps blowing it up, moving in, moving out, blowing it up again, moving in... I mean come on!!! Enough with the stealing shit...

Very Intersting point, so why in 1967 after israel liberated these lands, and offered them back to the arabs, why did they refuse? why did the egyptians in and the jordanians from 1948 - 1966 not make a state for these so called palestinians? why because it a bullshit issue...

That Latino Guy said... And then there is of course, the territory of Shebba Farms/Golan Heights which even Israel claims belongs to Syria, but of course, Israel and the IDF occupy it, I mean if that's not playing by the rules, well... yeah, anyway.

again you play loose and fast with the facts, the golan was captured from syria after syria attacked, thus it is LEGAL according to the UN to hold lands until a treaty can be made, until Syria makes peace, they dont get their land back, all legal by the UN

That Latino Guy said... I mean maybe in a Zionist world, God himself owes the occupied territories to them, but we're talking about the real world here, not the philosophical one, where any religious group can pick a book and a deity and say: "But He/She/It said in the Bible/Torah/Koran etc, that...

Israel has GIVEN UP it's biblical borders, it GAVE them temple mount to the MOSLEMS, what has the arab world done to promote pluralism? destroy every jewish site they could find...

That Latino Guy said... " yeah, okay... and I gotta book that says God wants me to invade Mexico and then occupy it cause well, cause god said so, fuck the Mexicans and their resistance. It's mine!!!! See, what I mean. That's just not very nice nor is it fair. Didn't anyone learn anything about playing by the rules first, and then blaming everyone else?

you can keep mexico.... the water give you the trots, but the point again, if jews have no rights in their historic lands, then NOONE DOES... Jews have been in jerusalem for 3000 years, 2300 YEARS longer than islam has existed... learn some history

That Latino Guy said... Not that I like Hezbollah's religous doctrinated shit, but I totally understand their anger. Why would anyone, and I mean anyone including Israelis feel anything less than hatred for a country that:

again your being stupid, Israel occupies NO PART OF LEBANON, the UN SAYS SO.....

That Latino Guy said... a) completely ignores the authority of the United Nations (that's like 160+ countries telling you like it is, that's called majority rules baby!)

actually you dont understand the concept of the UN, it aint majority rule

That Latino Guy said... b) invades, kills, bombs, and then occupies their neighbors and then blames them for the violence.

again you may invade an enemy that has not stopped trying to genocide your ass for 58 years,

That Latino Guy said... c) creates a state of apartheid that discriminates, criminalizes, imprisons, kidnaps, tortures, murders their cousins, who happen to be arabs...

actaully your quite stupid... 25% of israel is arab and theya re equal citizens are are killed by palestinians just as much as jews. the "territories" are not israel, and they have no rights inside of israel other than normal human rights.

your point about how bad israel is, how bad is the PA? they have killed 80 of their own (brutally) for suspecting they were friends of israel.

That Latino Guy said... No, it's not Hezbollah (a military and cd isrultural movement that organized as a resistance to the Israeli INVASION and OCCUPATION of Lebenon in 1982

occupation ended 6 yrs ago...

That Latino Guy said... or the Palestinian people, or the Syrians, or the Lebanese, or even the Iranians that Jews in Israel should worry about... it's the Zionist state-of-mind that has infiltrated, corrupted, devided the beautiful, loving, hard-working, peaceful Jewish people against themselves. Once backed by the British in 1947, now backed in billions of dollars from the US, nuclear weapons, and a superior military, Zionist leaders, the Israeli Defense Forces and some desperate Jews have gifted their neighbors with a genocide that would even make that Fascist F#@k Hitler smile.

thisi last statement (above) is so deluded i cannot even try to respond

That Latino Guy said... I hope everyone read and listened carefully, cause I won't go over this very special lesson again. Now, go do your homework people, or start calling me names to distract the readers from the facts...

no names, i just give you a F for any points whatsoever, you seems to be able to distort every fact possible...

Denis Mashkevich said...

We are screening Ziad Doueiri's movie "West Beirut" in Barbur gallery in Jerusalem (www.barbur.org), today, 20 july, at 21:00. The entrance is free, and everyone is invited.

We hope to have interesting discussion after the movie.

Denis.

al said...

The sad thing is that majority of people think like latino guy because of ignorance multiplied with anti Jewish bigotry and you can do nothing with that. They do not give a shit about arab pogroms of 1917 or jews expelled form arab countries after WW2.They will ignore arab atrocities in sudan and the fact that all almost world conflicts with an exaption of Tibet are involved muslims. They will ignore the main fact that Hezbollah firing thousands rockets o Israeli territory and Israel has less casualties because it better prepared with shelters. But firing of rockets is just fine in latino guy’s context because he justified anuthing done agins jews. You can not argue with bigot. Only thing what Israel can do to justify it goals is to win and it does not look like it winning. Does it?

Ronen said...

Why do I have a feeling that this "Latino guy" is actually a "Shi'ite guy"?

kate said...

you all think that we want this war,
so you wrong..
we want peace but hizballa kill our arny and our people,
the war started because of your country, they grab our people!
and we thought that inuff..
you maybe count only the people that died on this war but you know?
all this year.. leave this year..
this two years!!! how many people killed and injured????
so many people that not do anything..
iknow you think to your self
"ohhh such stupid israli girl"
you can think like that, really..
but you like me, we both afraid.
if in our country less of people died it becuse they all the day in shelters,
and because they runing away..
not because our army so bad and killing you every day because they bored..
we can delete your country,
but we not like this,
we are good people that only want to cut this war, get our soldiers back, and live in peace.

thank you for reading [=

That Latino Guy said...

I am so stupid. I didn't know about the Arab Pograms. I feel bad for distorting the facts. I won't post here again. I'm sorry. I just wanted to let the public know that my Arab and Jewish friends feel the way I do. They are merely pawns in a game created by extremists on both sides. And now everyone is a target.

What is "Occupation", you are very smart. I give you an A in distorting the facts and an F in labeling me.

al said...

latino guy, what facts "Occupation" did distort? I am just curious. educate us. But do not forget we are talking facts nor demagogy. So what facts were distorted?